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Crosscut · 27 min

Questioning the Experts

Whether someone is quoting French philosophy or buying a bottle of raw milk, the thrill of outsmarting the experts often hides the fact that they’re just following a new leader with a better brand.

How French Theory Lost Its Cool × 5 Raw Quotes From America’s Largest Raw-Milk Dairy Owner

Published 2026-07-24

0:00 / 26:53 · Narrator Sulafat/Charon/Vindemiatrix

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The connection

A leather-bound book of French philosophy and a glass of unpasteurized milk don't have much in common, until one looks at the people selling them. Writing just a few days ago, Geoff Shullenberger observes how radical academic theories—once meant to topple authority—became a polished new establishment. Yesterday, Annie Waldman profiled a mogul building a thirty-million-dollar empire by telling customers to trust their gut over a century of science. What’s striking is how the student of high theory and the raw-milk buyer use the same language of rebellion to feel smarter than the crowd. Both claim to be thinking for themselves, yet they often end up following new leaders into very old traps.

Shullenberger leaves a picture of a graduate student wearing Jacques Derrida like a designer label, using dense philosophy to signal they aren't part of the "docile horde." It’s a specific kind of rebellion where being "critical" is the ultimate way to show you're in the know. But notice what happens when that same spirit of defiance moves from the library to the dairy aisle. Annie Waldman’s profile of Mark McAfee introduces a different kind of nonconformist—one who bypasses the library to challenge 150 years of public health science. What jumps out is how the raw-milk drinker and the philosophy student are essentially reading from the same script. Both see the mainstream as more than just wrong; they see it as a trap for the unthinking. Where the academic uses Lacan to feel smarter than everyone else, McAfee’s customers use unpasteurized milk to feel physically "pure" and politically "awake." Shullenberger shows how skepticism eventually becomes the new establishment, "part of the furniture." Read alongside Waldman, that observation starts to look like a warning. The $30 million raw-milk business suggests that when people trade old experts for new leaders who promise "the truth," they often just end up following a different, more profitable kind of authority.

A student in a black turtleneck and a farmer selling millions in milk don't seem to have much in common. Yet both find power in saying "no" to the experts. Questioning everything starts as a way to break free, but often ends with a new set of rules. Whether it’s a difficult book or a bottle of raw milk, the hook is knowing something others don’t. What lingers is the sight of someone walking away from one crowd only to join another. How can anyone tell if they are making up their own mind or just following a different script?